Question 87: Iron contamination of CCR, cyclic, and semi-regen reformer catalyst is a common problem. What level of iron concentration typically justifies catalyst replacement due to poor catalyst performance?

METKA (Sunoco, Inc.) Typically, iron levels up to approximately 12,000 ppm can be tolerated before a change-out is required. Iron is a support modifier that can affect both the metal and acid sites. There is more of an impact on the acid sites, and iron can impede chloride pick-up and trap sulfur on the catalyst. Iron typically impacts the first reactor in a fixed-bed unit and is primarily a result of upstream corrosion in the naphtha hydrotreater.

Question 86: The reformer’s feed properties can be affected when the refinery is maximizing refinery diesel yield. How do these changes to reformer feed affect performance with respect to C5+ yield, hydrogen production, cycle length, and economics?

NEWTON (Roddey Engineering Services, Inc.) As everyone knows, we’re not here to discuss how to make more gasoline; we’re here at the conference to learn how to make more diesel, so I just hope you people in here... But whenever you start to talk about maximizing diesel yield from most refineries, what you’re going to talk about is shifting the heavy end of the reformer feed to the diesel stream and so you lower your endpoint to the reformer.

Question 85: Olefins that are formed in the catalytic reforming process must be removed or converted when the reformate is processed in an aromatics extraction unit. Historically, what unit operations have been used to remove/convert the olefins in the reformate? Are there any good alternatives to clay treating? How do the alternatives compare to clay treating with respect to capital cost, maintenance, operating cost, environmental impact, and effectiveness of olefin removal?

QUINTANA (Valero Energy Corporation) The olefin content of the reformate is determined by thermodynamics at the last reforming reactor. With higher severity, whether it’s from a leaner feed, lower pressure, lower hydrogen-to-hydrocarbon ratio or higher octane, you will produce higher olefin content in the reformate. Those olefins are going to be distributed more towards the lighter end; that is, the C6 fraction has higher olefins than the C7 fraction, which is higher than the C8 fraction, and so on.

Question 84: What is your experience with cleaning multi-upcoming trays in aromatics extraction service? What cleaning methods are most effective?

QUINTANA (Valero Energy Corporation) While we do have some multiple upcomer trays installed in one of our extraction units. We haven’t really had to clean them as yet, but we have used various methods to clean the conventional rain deck extractor trays in our other units. As such, we do believe that those methods should be similarly successful with MU trays. Generally, we first would steam out the extractor from the bottom and then follow that up with a hot condensate wash from the top down. That tends to loosen all the bulk foulants, breaking them into smaller pieces, washing them down to the bottom of the extractor and flushing them out.

Question 83: Since Sulfolane-based aromatic recovery units are experiencing corrosion-related problems, are there alternative solvents available? What are the advantages and disadvantages of these alternatives?

METKA (Sunoco, Inc.) We operate four solvent extraction units. The literature reports that there are alternative solvents available that have more capacity and are more selective than the traditional solvents. The degradation products, however, can still be corrosive. The use of any of these new solvents should be carefully reviewed and evaluated. Comprehensive review of your existing unit design and how it relates to a new solvent is essential. Our experience is that the corrosion tendency and acidity of the tradition solvents can be controlled if the solvent is properly monitored and maintained.

Question 82: In light of coming benzene regulations, are you using (or planning to use) the isomerization unit for benzene conversion? How does this affect isomerization catalyst performance and unit operation? How does this affect the gasoline pool? How does benzene saturation in an isomerization unit compare to a dedicated benzene saturation reactor/catalyst?

ZMICH (UOP LLC) This question relates very well with Question #80 that we discussed a few minutes ago, and what I’d like to do is touch upon some of the key points that we mentioned there. So Item #1 on the slide relates to the naphtha isomerization units being flexible in their ability to handle benzene. Typically, 3% benzene in the feed and in a range of 0 vol% to 5 vol% is normal. For item #2, as benzene increases, the reactor ΔT increase because of the heat of reaction, decreasing the research octane number or the PIN. The higher temperature means lower isomerization or lower iso ratio. Also, as benzene increases, it poisons more of the catalyst in the reactor, which effectively is increasing the space velocity across the reactor,

Question 81: Has the optimum feed for light naphtha isomerization units changed given that: 1) ethanol blending reduces the octane value of other blendstocks; 2) the demand for premium gasoline is down; and, 3) ethanol blending increases RVP compliance costs? Are you removing pentane from the isomerization unit feed stream or shutting down the unit? Or, are the units still valuable for isomerizing normal hexane and saturating benzene?

KAISER (Delek Refining Ltd.) The question is very well phrased in that the introduction of ethanol into the blend pool does tend to reduce the need to run the isomerization unit in that ethanol is a very high RVP blend component, and it has enough octane to be able to possibly offset the need for the octane boost that you’re getting out of your isomerization unit. So when a refiner wants to introduce the ethanol into their blend pool, there are three likely scenarios that they’ll go through in their unit operations. The first is obviously shut the isomerization unit down.

Question 80: Where in the isomerization reactor catalyst bed does the hydrogenation of benzene (exothermic) occur? How does this affect the other isomerization reactions? What concentration of benzene in the isomerization feed is acceptable?

ZMICH (UOP LLC) This question refers to or asks about benzene hydrogenation and how it affects to isomerization reactions, maximum levels in the feed, and where does it happen in the reactors. So what I thought we would do is start out with what am I talking about: benzene saturation.

Question 79 It has been reported that diisobutylene (isooctene) causes a stability problem when blended in gasoline. Do you have experience blending diisobutylene in gasoline? And if so, were there stability or other problems?

GRUBB (Chevron USA, Inc.) I consulted our corporate experts for this, Shingou Lou and Dave Kohler. We built one in Pascagoula and their basic response was that there’s really no reason to expect any more instability problems than you would have with normal olefins. And as with the other olefins, if you let them go unchecked, they could lead to an insoluble gum residue. These can be mitigated effectively with some antioxidants—the phenylenediamine-hindered phenol. They do recommend that you inject them very close to the source unit. Like I said, Pascagoula converted an MTBE plant and we had no instability issues at our plant. Corporate-wide, we actually have experience with two ion exchange resin-type catalyst units, two solid phosphoric acids distributed on solid support-type catalyst units, and we have experience with Dimersol-type units.

Question 78 For HF alkylation units, have you changed your criteria for materials given the low availability of low carbon/non-recycled steel? Are you heat treating welds? Can you control Brinell Hardness with welding procedures? For small bore pipe, do you recommend using flanges or threaded pipe?

KAISER (Delek Refining Ltd.) Again, just to re-emphasize, I’m not currently on an HF unit so part of this response will rely on some former colleagues of mine. I would not make a blanket recommendation to change the material specification for carbon steel in HF alkylation units. To me, the risk is too great. I understand that there are certain times when things are tight and you might need immediate material delivery and there’s no other option, but I would not make a blanket relaxation in the material specifications.